Strength in lifting is directly related to lifting weights, where strength in martial arts is directly related to martial arts capabilities.
A guy who can bench 305 is gym strong. A guy who can lift much larger men is (in my opinion) martial arts strong.
I’ll give examples. I’ve tried to wrestle with people who would pin me and keep me down, people who could throw me and flip me over and turn me into a ragdoll in training that couldn’t lift what I can lift. I’ve lifted with guys who embarrass the hell out of me who couldn’t keep me down when they gave it their all.
One may lead to the other, but there’s nothing to say that a strong man in the gym will automatically be strong in martial arts.
Very true. It’s what fighters call “gym muscles”. Just because you have muscles, due to lifting weights, doesn’t mean you can do martial arts without effort.
This is also why you see some martial artists that look weak, perform feats of strength, like breaking stuff, that may look incredible to most people, but may not be able to, say, deadlift 200lb weights.
In the same way, just because you are gym strong, doesn’t mean you’re strong in a fight.
Muscles are trained differently in each subject. This also explains old martial artists that look a little overweight or a little scrawny, yet are ridiculously fast and strong, and regardless of how they look, their bodies are rock hard.
While one can compliment the other, they are most definitely separate.
Well said, Ryu.
training in martial arts can also give you strength (or the ability to express power, more accurately stated) in some goofy (non-optimal) positions. There are some (usually movement science obsessed) people in the traditional strength building community who have been studying and promoting not just movement strength and power but the sort of power building that has longevity rather than creating physical problems later in life. This often means more focus on tendons and joint mobility/strength than is traditionally given by muscle-obsessed-to-a-fault strength lifting.
Not regularly, no. I should. I started doing it quite often a while back but, unfortunately, it fell by the wayside and I haven’t taken it back up since.
">that’s what Asian martial artists seem to do."
This is like borderline submittable to “Yo Is This Racist” ….. But really it’s just a massive widespread cultural misconception over what martial arts is, much less Chinese or Japanese martial arts. I think it’s also a misconception about what mediation is, probably….